What happens when two loudmouth queers living with HIV from Chile and Turkey meet at an AIDS conference…and end up screaming Trixie Mattel lyrics in the rain? 🌧️💄

In this episode, Ozla sits down with Lu, a visual artist, designer, researcher, and HIV activist from Chile.Together, they revisit their first meeting at the International AIDS Conference in Montréal and dive into the joy, tension, awkwardness, and unexpected intimacy of navigating queer HIV spaces around the world.

The conversation moves through Grindr disclosure chaos, intergenerational clashes, activism burnout, viral anxiety, and the shared relief of finally finding “your people” in a room full of strangers.

No two HIV stories are the same but sometimes healing begins simply by hearing someone else say, “same.” It’s funny, tender, emotional, and a little ranty, truly an OurCARE classic. If you’ve ever wondered what activists actually carry behind the campaigns, this episode goes there. 🧡